Some people seem to have either too much time in their hands or are exorbitant effective spending time and energy in order to produce beauty in a browser. Take a look at YUI in combination with Yahoo.ext: just for the sake of showing an example, Jack Slocum, the creator of Yeahoo.ext, has build a rich frontend on top of a well known php based discussion system. Prabably the first time I see a rich internet framework/toolset/library coming with a decent and out of the box useful example. Pretty cool I think!! (now sit and wait untill the GWT’s, the Echo2’s, the Dojo’s and the whatever ajax branded yet to come personal-but-o-so-aha-good-looking-investments are coming with their version of dynamic skins for phpBB )